Tricia Erickson: 'An indoctrinated Mormon should never be elected as President'
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney speaks during the first 2012 Republican presidential candidates' debate in Manchester, New Hampshire June 13, 2011.

Tricia Erickson: 'An indoctrinated Mormon should never be elected as President'

ONLY ON THE BLOG: Answering today’s OFF-SET questions is Tricia Erickson, author of the new book,"Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus The Office Of The Presidency of the United States of America."

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She runs a communications company, Crisis Management, Incorporated and Angel Pictures & Publicity, a political and entertainment publicity and consulting company that promotes conservative causes and personalities.

Erickson is scheduled to be a guest "In The Arena" tonight (Aug. 3, 2011) at 8 p.m. ET on CNN (this is an encore presentation of an interview with Erickson originally published July 7, 2011).

(EDITOR'S NOTE: Due to the provocative–and in some cases, inflammatory– nature of Erickson's answers, we asked for a response from Mormon historian Richard Bushman, the Howard W. Hunter Visiting Professor of Mormon Studies at Claremont Graduate University in California. His remarks follow the answers below, along with reactions from Corey P. Saylor, National Legislative Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations and Ahmed M. Rehab, Executive Director, CAIR-Chicago.)

You ask, “Can Mitt Romney serve two masters?” He was governor of Massachusetts from 2003 – 2007 and his belief in Mormonism seems to have only served him well. Why would this be different if he were elected president?

Let me say that my book is divided in to two parts. Part I covers the spiritual aspect. Part II covers the political. Both parts are important when considering voting for this possible front runner.

To answer the above question, I would not say that Mr. Romney’s beliefs served him well during his governorship except in the case that Mormons are taught to shine a light on Mormonism in a way that would draw converts to the church, and if Mr. Romney’s office helped to promote Mormonism, this was a win/win.

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The Mormon Church enjoyed the representation of having another public official under its belt and Mitt Romney became a shining example of Mormonism, which served to normalize the Church and its bizarre secret ceremonies, rituals and beliefs, to the American public.

There’s a thread of self-elevation that runs through the church and its membership. Mormons are taught and believe that they are on a path of eternal progression in this life to individual and eternal godhood. It is common in the church to be achievement oriented in order to promote a shining example to others to demonstrate the attributes of Mormonism in everything they do.

Although Mitt achieved the office of governor, he did not do well for the people of Massachusetts. Massachusetts was in the bottom 3 states in job creation during Mr. Romney’s term.

You have said that "if the American people knew what Romney truly believed, they would surely not place him in the highest office in the land." Have you corresponded or spoken with Mitt Romney?

No, I have not.

People of one religion may express their faith in many different ways. How do you know what Romney believes?

Mitt takes his faith and religion very seriously and has held the offices of Mormon Missionary, Missionary Zone Leader, assistant to the Mission President (the highest position a missionary can hold), Mormon Bishop and Stake President over approximately 12 churches in his former district, in the LDS/Mormon Church.

He was also a graduate of BrighamYoung University. You cannot attain the “calling” from the Lord to serve as Mormon Bishop or Stake President unless you are a thoroughly entrenched and obedient Mormon. Mitt comes from a long lineage of Mormonism which spans no less than four generations. He is certainly deeply entrenched in the Mormon doctrine.

Mitt and Ann were married in the Salt Lake CityMormon Temple in which they participated in the secret endowment ceremonies. They continue to go to, as all temple Mormons do, and participate in these ceremonies.

I experienced this same ceremony myself when I was married in the Mormon Temple. I cannot explain to you in a few words here just how completely violent, mind controlling and alarming these ceremonies are.

Just this information on the secret temple ceremonies would send most thinking human beings in to “warning mode” that maybe we all better rethink who our Republican candidate should be. I can’t stress enough to you how truly alarming these ceremonies that Mitt and Ann repeatedly went through, and continue to go to and participate in, are. The truth about this and more is truly stranger than fiction.

Mitt Romney is an accomplished leader. Do you have the bona fides to attack him–and his faith?

Where do I begin? Other than the fact that I have a long professional resume, I was raised in the Mormon Church and was a Mormon Bishop’s daughter.

I am well versed in all beliefs, ceremonies, creation and history of the Mormon Church, of which the Mormon hierarchy has continually re-written to cast the church in a different light, in order to continue to bring in to the church approximately 330,000 gross-of-their-income tithe payers per year.

It should also be mentioned that there is no accounting for these tax exempt billions of dollars to their membership.

I was also the first Crisis Management/Damage Control specialist in the US as announced by Barbara Walters on 20/20. And through the years, I have opined on many TV and radio shows and various media venues throughout the US.

I think it is important for people to know that I did not write this book because I wanted to. I wrote this book because I had to. I kept waiting for someone else to do it. It just amazed me, knowing what I know, that no one else would expose what has to be brought to light to the American people about this candidate, both from a bizarre belief standpoint and also regarding his political record.

There are a number of web sites that have labeled you as a “professional Mormon basher.” Are you anti-Mormon?

O Gosh No! My heart aches for the Mormon People. These people are doing the best they can to live up to the standards and the false doctrine of attaining godship in the Celestial Kingdom when they pass on.

They are trying, through good works, to be perfect, "even as their Father In Heaven is perfect", which no man can achieve. That is why Christ came and died on the cross so that we could be forgiven of our sins because it is impossible to be human and sinless.

Mormon dogma lays out the "Mormon" plan for salvation, versus, "Christ’s" plan for salvation. The Mormon plan for salvation and exaltation to godship is not only false, but places demands on church members that are unachievable in order to merit the "highest degree of glory". (Oh, does this sound Masonic?)

Women in Utah are among the highest factions of consumers of anti-depressants (see Los Angeles Times article) in the US. There’s a reason for this. They are working themselves to death, while the goals that all Mormons try to achieve are based on false beliefs and theology. One cannot reconcile a lie, no matter how hard they try to believe it. And did I mention that their husbands have control over their Mormon Salvation?

It is a loving thing to lead people out of deception and in to the truth. If I did not love them, I would not try to save them.

Did you leave the LDS Church voluntarily—out of personal conviction—or were you excommunicated?

Here's a excerpt from the book's introduction:

As a little girl, I recall my Mormon mother brushing my hair while getting her five kids ready for church. She said to me, "Pat (they called me Pat back then), you don’t believe in our religion, do you?" This little Mormon bishop’s daughter answered, "No, mommy, I don’t." I couldn’t have been more than nine years old, but when I think back on this, I thank the living God for the precious gift of discernment, even as a child. If God had not placed that wonderful spirit in me, I would not have written this book and I may have very well remained blinded to the truth of the enslavement of my soul to the horrendously blasphemous lies of the well masked cult of Mormonism.

No, I was in no way, shape or form excommunicated or pushed out of the church. I have seen some Mormon posts out there that falsely suggest that I was possibly excommunicated from the church. This is an outright lie and a desperate attempt to discredit me so that the public, and Mormons, will not hear the message of truth from my book.

The truth is, I left the church because I knew it was a complete lie. As a matter of fact, it took many years to get the church to take my name off of their membership roles. Mormon Missionaries would periodically show up at my door and letters were sent to me in attempts to pull me back in. The Mormon Church does not let go easily.

After I left the church, it took years to clear the fog of the many years of indoctrination and deception that had been poured in to my brain. Even though I didn’t believe in it, when you sit in the pews for 21 years, you cannot avoid the mind binding programming and distortion. Many ex-Mormons go through the same process.

Are you of the opinion that a Mormon should never be elected President?

Yes, it is my opinion that an indoctrinated Mormon should never be elected as President of the United States of America. Indoctrinated temple Mormons (as Romney is) have experienced years of brainwashing and indoctrination and also have made covenants and oaths that they plainly cannot disobey.

Mitt Romney and all temple Mormons have sworn to obey The Law of Consecration in the secret temple ceremonies which states "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at the altar, the you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in The Doctrine and Covenants (a Mormon book), in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, an everything with which the Lord has bless you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormon Church), for the building up of the Kingdom of God on earth and for the establishment of Zion."

Ex-Mormon Ed Decker reveals the penalty for disobedience that was made by Mitt Romney (and all temple Mormons) at the time he took out his temple endowments: The "execution of the penalty" for disobedience was demonstrated "by placing the thumb under the left ear, the palm of the hand down, and by drawing the thumb quickly across the throat to the right ear, and dropping the hand to the side."

He further states: "It is hard to imagine that well-educated Mormon men of such political stature like former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Utah Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah and Senator Harry Reid of Nevada could bring their thumbs to their throats and swear a blood oath that they will 'suffer' their throats slit from ear to ear should they not sacrifice all that (they) possess, even (their) own lives if necessary, in sustaining and defending the Kingdom of God, as defined by the Mormon prophet."

I attest to these violent oaths and death signs that were made in the secret temple ceremonies, and more, because I also experienced and enacted the same.

It is also important to point out that the Mormon Kingdom of God is different from the Christian Kingdom of God. My book explains that Mormons believe the Kingdom of God will be in Jackson, Missouri and that the Mormons will be and maintain the government of the earth. No joke.

Long story short, it would be near to impossible for an entrenched Mormon to place his allegiance to the United States of America over the Mormon Church. After Mitt’s death oaths to the church, it is my belief that he lied about this to the American people and will continue to do so.

Furthermore, would you trust the judgment of a man who truly believes he will become a literal God and will be given his own kingdom/planet to rule over and populate with spirit babies (and many more bizarre beliefs explained in the book) to be placed in to the highest office in the land? Really?

In my humble opinion, I truly think we, as a nation can, no longer overlook the reality of any aspect of the background, character, belief system, and political truth that has formed the man or woman who will become our next President. There is too much at stake.

And what about a Jewish or Muslim candidate?

The Jews are God’s chosen people. They follow the Old Testament. Even though every Old Testament prophecy of the coming Messiah was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, they still have not accepted him as the Messiah. They cannot be compared to a cult religion in any way. They are to be respected and protected. There is no intellectual or spiritual argument that a person of Jewish decent should not run for the Office of the President.

A Muslim candidate would compare to a Mormon candidate in many ways. The two religions contain histories of false prophets and man-made (not God-made) religious books, writings that are full of fallacies, false doctrine, indoctrination and bizarre promises of the afterlife. So much more to say but I would like to keep the topic on the current election.

Let me just say that there are good people in both the Mormon and Muslim religions who are striving to live a righteous life according to what they believe. It’s just that some beliefs have been proven to be patently false. And when it comes to placing a candidate in the highest office in the land, we need to place a stable and discerning president in office.

If a candidate believes in proven lies and practices cult-like doctrine, how can the American people hold confidence in him/her as the leader of the free world?

This may be the most important Presidential election in our history. We can’t afford to get it wrong.

* * *

We asked Richard Bushman for his reaction to Tricia Erikson's answers. Bushman, once a Mormon missionary himself, is the Howard W. Hunter Visiting Professor of Mormon Studies at Claremont Graduate University in California.

CLICK HERE to read our OFF-SET blog interview with Prof. Bushman.

An emeritus professor at Columbia University, he received his Ph.D. in the History of American Civilization from Harvard. Among his books is the biography, “Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling.” He also serves as one of three general editors of the Joseph Smith Papers.

Tricia Erickson brings up to date a line of argument that has circulated in conservative evangelical churches for quite some time. Ed Decker, whom she quotes, has been a leader in exposing Mormonism for about three decades. His well-known book and movie by the same name, The God Makers: A Shocking Expose of What the Mormon Church Really Believes, has been shown and read in evangelical churches thousands of times and may be the single most important factor in the evangelical opposition to a Mormon presidential candidate.

Both Dekker and Erikson are one-time Mormons who became disillusioned, and instead of walking away felt an obligation to discredit their former faith.

Erickson does a good job of making Mormon temple rituals seem ominous and irrational. The secrecy surrounding the temple inevitably arouses suspicion, but in my opinion secrecy is important. I see Mormon temples as an effort to create a sacred space in a secular world, a quest followed by numerous religious peoples throughout history. They are a spatial equivalent of the Christian and Jewish Sabbath where a sacred time is demarked from the rest of the week.

One way to set temples apart as a sacred space is to make them secret. They are not, of course, actually secret, Erickson and Dekker quote passages from the ceremony and the whole script can be found online. But Mormons treat them as secret by not even discussing the ceremonies among themselves outside the temple walls. The various measures taken to protect these spaces means Mormons find they can draw closer to God when they enter the temples.

To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the Resurrection can be made to look silly, too.

The question is Mitt Romney’s independence. Will he pursue the public good as he rationally understands it, or will he bow to the judgment of Church leaders? Does his religion force him to be a puppet? Here we can turn to history for an answer. Temple-attending, believing Mormons have held national office for over a century now.

Is there a single instance where they have succumbed to Church direction against their own consciences. I do not know of one myself.

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UPDATE 7-7-11 / 11 am ET: We received this statement from Corey P. Saylor, National Legislative Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

Tricia Erickson’s arguments sound remarkably like anti-Catholic attacks directed at John Kennedy during the 1960 presidential campaign. Many remember him as among the better presidents to ever serve our nation.

Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, also known as the law of the land, says, “…no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any office or public Trust under the United States.”

Romney and other candidates for public office should win or lose based on the solutions they offer to the issues confronting all Americans.

Thank God followers of minority faiths, such as Muslims like me, have the wisdom of the Founding Fathers enshrined in the Constitution to protect us from people like Tricia Erickson, who seem to think a person’s choice of a faith other than hers should relegate them to second-class citizen status.

And here are comments from Ahmed M. Rehab, Executive Director, CAIR-Chicago.

The only determination as to whether or not Mitt Romney, a Mormon, should be elected president of the United States are American votes, not Tricia Erickson's religious test. The same goes for a Muslim, Buddhist, or Atheist candidate.

In the United States like in all modern secular democracies, the relationship between the individual and the State, otherwise known as American citizenship, is not a Christian or Jewish contract as Erickson seems to suggest, but a secular social contract that guarantees equal treatment of all religious groups under the law.

Erickson's faux patriotism flies in the face of the basic freedoms enshrined in our constitution, threatens our commitment to pluralism, and undermines our culture of meritocracy, by seemingly mistaking the U.S. for a religious state that privileges her chosen faith over those of other Americans.

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  1. NMR

    You certainly dissed the Mormon woman, whose point of view you did not accept. I'm not saying that you had to accept what she said ..... however, your facial expressions, and snickers were very unprofessional.

    August 3, 2011 at 8:58 pm | Reply
  2. Bill Prince

    Tricia E. answered the question about a 'policy statement'. Why didn't you accept it? If one swears an oath to pursue a particular course of action and to obey specific church authorities, could that not translate into policy? It sounded as if you were defending the LDS church.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Reply
    • Michael

      She was asked multiple times what bad policy decisions Romney had made and she NEVER answered.

      August 4, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Reply
    • Ruben

      This rdnimes me of another book that uses the "GTD" tag: "Getting Things Done" by Roger Black. Again, this book is more of a collection of what (this year we'd refer to as life hacks, together with suggestions for more general ways of being organised and "at one" with yourself, such as drafting up a list of personal standards to adhere to, etc. I actually discovered the Black book before I'd ever heard of David Allen (in fact, I think I discovered David Allen by doing a web search for the Roger Black book!).Like the Bliss book, the Black book has some interesting suggestions, and if you come across a copy in a library or a second hand book stall (I think it's out of print now, and may never have been in print outside of the UK), I recommend picking it up.

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  3. Donna

    I was watching in the Arena tonight about a women talking about Mitt Romney and Mormonism. I think she should be listened to seriously. I live in Utah and have been a Mormon, and that is exactly what they teach. The doctrines and teachings are the reason I left the Church.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:03 pm | Reply
    • Sheri

      Agree... Mr commentator on "in the arena" brush up on the topic - or go to work for FOX. No place for you here.

      August 3, 2011 at 9:08 pm | Reply
  4. Donna

    I think you treated her that way, due to ignorance. I really think you need to look into the Mormon teachings and doctrines before you under estimate people who have had personal experiences with the LDS Religion.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Reply
  5. Sheri

    What is this "in the Arena" crap. CNN-this sounds like Fox!! This is prejudiced, dodgy, biased news. I expect more from CNN. If i didn't know better I would think Roger Ailes owned you. Brush off Mormons as if doctrine doesnt matter to politics? Crucify Muslims as if it does matter to politics? where is the fairness? Either religion and politics are separate or they're not. You cant play both sides....that is unless you're Fox news. THis show, along with the sensationalism and Hollywood nature of Pierce completely dissapoint me.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Reply
  6. genomega1

    I could care less about his religion but Romney is not a conservative.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Reply
  7. Rocky Clark

    I watch CNN for UNBIASED reporting and interviewing. Tonights presentation with the Mitt Romney issue was the epitomy of condescention. Shaking your head and snickering is not what I would consider to be professionalism in journalism. I am very disappointed in your coverage and the behavior of the interviewer. I could have sworn that I was watching the FOX network.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Reply
    • Sheri

      Agree Rocky. This was BIASED reporting. And un-professional and conservative, snickering, and smug. That coupled with the ads run against OBAMA and FOR Huckabee, make me wonder what has recently happened to CNN. Certainly with all the focus on stars (Pierce) and now this, make me wonder who is at the helm making sure CNN stays in line. We have MSNBC for the left; FOX dominating and overbearing (propaganda?) on the right. CNN PLEASE stay in the middle!

      August 3, 2011 at 9:30 pm | Reply
  8. Beverly Montgomery

    What ex-Mormon Tricia Erickson said is the truth. Too bad the innerviewer dismissed her information as absurd. I am a former temple Mormon and can vouch for what Erickson said as true. Had the interviewer not been so unprofessional, Erickson could have told more about the law of consecration, which includes signing absolutely everything over to the Mormon church for redistribute back to the individual Mormon as the church sees fit. The vows we made in the temple also supported polygamy being brought back before the end times. You see, the next life includes many wives for the god-man to repopulate a world of his own with spirit babies. The Mormon church will not talk about any of this because it is "sacred" to them–and absurd to the rest of us who have seen the light of Truth.
    Were Mitt Romney to become president is a nightmare waiting to happen. America, please think it through before buying into the dazzle of a slick PR job costing billions of dollars by a very, very rich church.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:18 pm | Reply
    • Michael

      I apprecitate Forman's actions and what the other guest had to say as well. However, if someone wants to know about the LDS Church, they should NEVER had an ex-member with an agenda on. Erickson obviously has issues with the Church, which should be kept to herself. Also, how about a little respect for things we hold sacred? We don't bash the beliefs of other religions and you should not bash anyone's beliefs. It is one of our Articles of Faith that all have the same right to worship how they see fit.

      August 4, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Reply
    • Terrie Lynn Bittner

      I'm not sure you do actually know a lot about Mormons. You used a term Mormons don't use–we don't refer to ourselves as temple Mormons. We don't practice the Law of Consecration today–it was done very briefly in the 1800s but didn't work because people tend to be a bit materialistic in this world. The woman interviewed alluded to blood atonement (covering herself by quoting someone else even though she claims to have been there herself), which was never Mormon doctrine. Never. There is no violence in the temple. I wouldn't go if there were. It's easy to make imaginary accusations, but we can see she is not a reliable source. To get into the temple, you must tell your leader you have a testimony and that you are honest. She claims not to have ever had a testimony, which means she lied to get into the temple. Why believe her now?

      August 5, 2011 at 8:11 am | Reply
  9. Robert Robinson

    It makes me shudder to know that there are people that have to stoop to out right lies and attempted fear mongering to rationalize their bigoted views. Ms Erickson/Mr Becker you have obviously not studied the Bible,Book of Mormon,Pearl of Great Price nor the Doctrine and Covenants. Both of your "experiences and learning's" are surly the stuff of fantasy. Please, learn the facts before you embarrass and undermine your integrities futher.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Reply
    • Beverly Montgomery

      Mr. Robinson, in all due respect, I know first hand what I am talking about. I was a convert to the LDS church, had the "burning of bosom" as confirmation that the LDS church was the only true church. I was a serious temple Mormon; my husband had been in the bishopric and was the high priest group leader when I was excommunicated for attending a Christian church, in addition to the LDS church, after I became a born-again Christian. I diligently studied the books you mentioned. No one in their right mind can justify the information found in the Pearl of Great Price and the Doctrine and Covenants as being "complements" to the Bible. Both books are in total opposition to the Bible. Jesus' work on the Cross was planned before the foundation of the world. Jesus wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time as Mormon doctrine teaches. The Cross is not a murder weapon as the Mormons teach. The cross is a sign of love.

      Mitt Romney is working his way to heaven, to wear a crown in his own world, to exalt himself–the arrogance of that in itself is enough to cause pause before casting a vote his way. Romney's strives in following godly principles but denies the power therein, which is found in humility at the foot of the Cross. Please study the New Testament's apostle Paul who received final revelation to be given to the Body of Christ with Jesus as the Head without any need for religion.

      August 3, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Reply
      • Patrick

        Bererly- You need more Mormon friends :o ) Mormons don't teach those things you mention, nor are they excommunicated just for attending another Christian church.

        August 3, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
      • hillplus

        Beverly, I am sorry you are so angry and upset with the church, but you are incorrect in so many ways. I am thinking that you never did get a true understanding of the church just by reading your words. No one can work their way into heaven and LDS don't believe that. We are saved by the Grace of God through the Atonement of our Savior Jesus Christ!

        August 7, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • Johanna

      , B.Y. was only re-stating the law that he believed was an erental one, not a tempary one There's the problem.B.Y. failing in his duty to correctly interpret the place of the O.T law in these times. He was confused. I'm glad you said that he did'nt live by that law, that he did'nt order the killings of anybody that did inter-marry etc.So I guess we can just dismiss his prophetic guidance when he taught that if some one did inter-marry, that then he would'nt kill them on the spot, God would ! (I'm sure that made the people relax ).Mormon leaders well into the 20th Century were still faithful to Moses and to Brigham in respect to the evil of inter-marriage with Blacks.Mormon males were taught that their children would be cursed as to the priesthood.Still stuck in the O.TYou said, You can say that Joseph Smith(J.S.) or B.Y. is not a prophet because of their racism or preferential treatment, but we would say they are guided by God. B.Y. was a false prophet/teacher on a lot more doctrines then just the Blacks and the priesthood issue. He may have been guided by God on some things, but not on the things that really count, like one's relationship to the true God. This was never more evident than with his counsel concerning Blacks, since no priesthood meant no access to the temple endowment ceremony etc (I'm not so sure a Black person would have had a positive experience since was'nt the devil in the ceremony cast with black skin? )You said, Get to the basics.You can't possibly void Mormonism by saying B.Y. was a racist. I'm glad you used the word MormonISM , since it, and not Mormons, is the issue.Was B.Y. a racist? Well, what did he, and those he mentored teach about a black skin/race? Did they obey Matt.28:19

      April 9, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Reply
  10. Chris Smith

    I agree with the comments above. The commentator? Tom Foreman, was very unprofessional. I don't know why he even agreed to interview her....he seemed to enjoy ridiculing her.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:35 pm | Reply
  11. aliceflynn

    I saw the program. Foreman disrespected Ms. Erickson and acted as though she did not know what she was talking about. When FORMER MEMBERS of a group try to explain what is going on in the inner circle, in the core beliefs, too often the public just doesn't want to believe it. I have seen this happen many times with smaller religious groups, when ex-member try to explain to the public what is wrong and why they left, they are labeled as just being "disgruntled". Listen up, America, it is the people who have left such groups who really will tell what is happening behind the scenes.

    August 3, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Reply
  12. William Hutchinson

    Personal experience and facts as a former Salt Lake County Commission tells me she is 100 percent right!

    August 3, 2011 at 9:53 pm | Reply
  13. nobodyimportant

    Trisha Erickson lied about what Mormons teach and believe, and she has been doing it for a while.

    August 3, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Reply
  14. Beverly Montgomery

    Patrick, I was excommunicated for the exact reason I mentioned. I countered by asking that my records be removed. There was a stake "trial" held because my husband had been a member of the bishopric. I don't know what your current revelation is regarding such, but back in 1979, this was what happened to me. As you know, once excommunicated, Mormons are advised to avoid those sent to "outer darkness" for denying Joseph Smith as a true prophet of God. We lost our so-called church family over night. And that simple fact further solidifies my point: the power of the pulpit is the ultimate authority Mitt Romney would have to bow down to remain if push came to shove–the wishes of the non-LDS American people would have to be denied for Romney to remain in good standing.

    So, if you are a tried and true Mormon, Patrick, you could not be my friend unless you went against church teaching. So it's up to you, Patrick...will you be my friend? or not?

    August 3, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Reply
    • Patrick

      Sure. I'll absolutely be your friend.

      August 3, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Reply
    • Michael

      More of your lies. I have a brother and sister that left the church and I am not expected to never see them again and I love them just the same. And no one knows who will be in outer darkness or any other place for that matter. God is the judge.

      August 4, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Reply
    • Lester Lohman

      A true prophet??? Whew, that is really some kind of a stretch!! Joseph Smith, according to my Bible's criteria for a prophet is that he is a false prophet whom we are not to fear. Or maybe Neil Armstrong forgot to tell us about the men living on the moon who dress like Quakers and live to be 1000 years old. Not the only false prophecy from this self-proclaimed prophet, but one of the most amusing. Amen!!

      August 14, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Reply
  15. BYUalum

    I was a member of this cult. I am not "disgruntled" but I think you should know that the church comes first – over your marriage, over your money and over your life. You need to live in Provo a few years to know what it is like to interact in this society. There are religions and there are cults. There are members of the church that are responsible civic leaders and can separate the secular from the spiritual but Mitt Romney is not one of them. If you do not think that LDS politicians will change their votes or opinions, check out the LDS church on the MX missile and the Equal Rights Amendment – and how the Congressional delegation as members of the church moved in lock-step. There is not that much difference between Warren Jeffs and Thomas S. Monson except Warren Jeffs is closer to the 1840s church.

    August 3, 2011 at 11:18 pm | Reply
  16. Patrick

    Regarding your "as you know" comment, I was taught the exact opposite at the LDS church.

    Anyways, as new friends, how have you been?

    August 3, 2011 at 11:21 pm | Reply
  17. Beverly Montgomery

    Patrick, this is Beverly.

    I'll be glad to be your e-friend, but first I'd like you to ask your bishop how he feels about your good standing in the church if you were to correspond with an ex-Mormon who could never be convinced to come back to the Mormon church even if they'd let me. Since we've started our e-friendship based on religion and politics, we'd probably continue e-discussion on both topics. See what your bishop says about your studying Biblical scripture with someone who can prove Joseph Smith is not a true prophet? And who would give you the very, very good news of the gospel? If you don't want to check with him, am I to assume you are a "jack" Mormon. Either way, I'd be glad to give you my email address for our "friendship" to develop, but in all due respect, your religion dictates what decision you will have to make–or else sneak around. I doubt the LDS church has changed its position on fellowship with ex-Mormons. Be informed and then decide if making a personal decision is something you are willing to do at the risk of your standing within your church.

    Please know my heart was blessed by your willingness to reach out! You're the first Mormon who has offered after finding out I was excommunicated.

    August 3, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Reply
    • simpleguy

      I'm a Mormon....I'll be your friend too!

      August 4, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Reply
    • Patrick

      I'll talk to my bishop on Sunday, but I don't expect there to be any problem, because I know he has a handful of ex-mormon friends, just like me. So do many of the LDS leaders in my area as well as many rank-n-file Mormons. We can delay any preconceived stereotypes about each other until we get to know one another better. Hope you're having a good day!

      August 4, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Reply
  18. Bonita

    But I think this Mormon gentleman is far better than average immoral Americans.

    August 4, 2011 at 1:54 am | Reply
  19. Laurie

    Won't somebody please expose this woman for the fraud that she is. If you look at her history, you will see that she has been trying for years to get attention in any way that she can. All one needs to do is look at her "credentials"... Every qualfication she claims is self proclaimed- she apparently is an expert on ALL things. She has lived a life of deceit- all you have to do is google Tricia Erickson and the Erickson angency to see that she behaved in a criminal and deceitful manner in her business practices. This business experience is one she does not allude to in her resume- CNN needs to do some fact checking on their so called experts before they give them a voice. By the way, Tricia must not have been a Mormon, or she would know that much of what she says about them is twisted, sensational, and dishonest. I am no supporter of Mitt Romney, but then again, many of his actions in government don't line up with Mormon belief with regards to abortion, etc. I guess you could say he doesn't concern himself with what he has been taught by his church leaders. Tricia is right about one thing- he is not a true conservative. But she is blatantly wrong about his blind following of church leadership, if he were, his record would be quite different!

    August 4, 2011 at 8:55 am | Reply
    • Ed Vacarro

      How much more money ......must you the Liar Ms Laurie/ Ms Madella ....spend and loose in court Ms laurie ...get you check book out for your latest lies about this author ..

      August 4, 2011 at 10:36 pm | Reply
    • Ed Vacarro

      Oh yeah nd MS M also

      August 4, 2011 at 10:39 pm | Reply
  20. Jeff

    Shame on you CNN for even giving a voice to this kind of bigotry. It was the same thing Kennedy faced in 1960 as to whether a Catholic should be elected President. I'm not a big Mitt fan, but my support for/against him will not be dictated by his chosen faith. You can't "check your faith at the door" when you run for political office, especially if you are a true Christian because it defines who you are. And that just drives the secularists nuts. I'd expect this garbage from MSNBC.

    August 4, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Reply
  21. TERROR ALERT

    REAL SHOOTING IN UTOYA or NORWEGIAN "AFTERLIFE" $$ FLASH MOB !!? http://stateofterror.blogspot.com/ or http://stateofterror.wordpress.com/ REAL TEARS OR TEAR GAS AND PURE THEATER ON FACES OF MANIACS !!? OSLO POLICE or COMMUNIST/LIBERAL CRIMINALS WHO WERE PREPARING FOR ACT OF TERROR AGAINST NORWAY AND EUROPE ALMOST HALF DECADE(collecting proofs and photos) AHEAD !!? WILL THERE BE APOCALYPSE NOW(Abomination) OR TOTAL RESISTANCE(civil war) !!? No doubt about bombing in Oslo, but what about shooting in Utoya !!!?

    ARIZONA = UTOYA and STOLTENBERG = BREIVIK (90 minutes vs 30 and for government vehicles or police even 20 minutes the most) !!!

    August 6, 2011 at 10:16 am | Reply
  22. Rob Mulloy

    I do not agree with Mrs. Erickson, but I'm thankful that CNN let her state her opinion. NO news media is unbiased, so it's good that CNN allows someone to talk that is atypical of its normal venue.

    August 6, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Reply
  23. TERROR ALARM

    YES , WE CAN...YES , WE CAN(FISH CAN & TENT CITY USA)...WE WILL WIN IN WAR ON TERROR (30 whities or what are terrorists will never come back alive...thank you lord....aaamen).

    ARIZONA = UTOYA = GOVERNMENT‘S "AFTERLIFE" FLASH MOB AND 911(twin towers) = OSLO BOMBING(there was bombing just as in 911; however, there was no shooting in either NORWAY or Arizona….instead tear gas and theater on faces of multiculturalism maniacs while calling YOU a terrorists) !!!

    http://stateofterror.blogspot.com/ or http://stateofterror.wordpress.com/

    Whitie is fighting war on terrorism just to come home and be pronounced as terrorist...turned in Timothy, jobless, homeless ..YESSS, WE CAN...GABBY OPENED HER EYES (psychotic Tucson)

    TEARS WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD !!! AS BUSH STATED "THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PAID FOR"(to die ) !!

    Don't worry O(s)bama, you just saved lots of Dollars in your DEBT DEALS(DEAD & ILL) as those America best (Navy Seals) would also grew older and then you already know how it goes !!!

    OS(B)AMA NOW MOVING OUT OF AFGHANISTAN – FEW DAYS AFTER MY ONLINE POSTING AND IS WILLING TO IMPROVE ECONOMY FEW MONTHS AHEAD OF ELECTIONS(awesome, isn't it) !!!

    August 19, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Reply
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  25. Joel Rodriguez

    For the record I am a Member of the Mormon faith and I find all of his quite amusing. I would state that approximately ninety percent of what has been stated here is inaccurate. It is more sensationalism than anything else. It's kind of like embellishing a story to make it sound more newsworthy when in reality, it is not. While the individuals being quoted here have a right to their opinions, it is nothing more than that, their opinions. Millions of faithful have a different opinion of the gospel and do no share in their rhetoric, they have embraced their beliefs and hold them sacred. I have hundreds of friends outside of the church as well as inside of the church, all are treated with the same love and respect. This is a basic tenet of our core religious beliefs. For the uninformed who would like to know what separates what we believe in from the traditional mainstream, it comes down to this. Mormons believe in modern-day revelation. Mormons believe the heavens are not closed and that revelation still exists today as in ancient times. It is a simple but powerful proclamation to the world. The traditional mainstream does not believe in modern-day revelation, hence does not accept the fact that our religious beliefs extend beyond their traditional beliefs. To find out more I recommend you go to a reliable source, http://www.mormom.org rather than a website that does not give you the true message of inspiration that comes from modern-day revelation and the restored gospel.

    August 26, 2011 at 6:44 am | Reply
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    I am technically LDS. My family history goes back to Brigham Young. I say technically because I am still on the records of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. As I read the comments and this article I can only shake my head to the lack of knowledge some of the individuals possess into the doctrine of the LDS faith. As one who served a mission, was married in a temple, and performed many ceremonies I find that many who call themselves christians do not truly act Christ-like from the lack of understanding of what the Mormon church teaches. I am no longer active in the LDS faith because I am openly gay. Yet I would never agree to comments of rituals and ceremonies in the temples in which suggest such violence. I lead my life according to the two great commandments, why is that so difficult for others?

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  36. Avser Bastian

    WHITES AREN’T WELCOME IN AMERICA ANY LONGER !!! WE DON’T NEED YOU ANYMORE !!! OUT OF AMERICA WITH WHITES NOW !!!


    OR
    http://www.youtube.com/user/BostjanAvsec

    OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE RECORDED LIVE IN 2009. Facts about lunatic Obama/Bush's twilight zone administrations(HORROR) or genocide against white population.

    Make sure to play video from beginning. Just in case http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xleq3o

    THIS INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU BY WHITE AMERICAN REFUGEE !!!

    IS IT INDEPENDENCE THAT WE CELEBRATE OR DEPENDENCE (what are your credit card bills or alimony saying about it) !!? HOW IS YOUR DIABETES AND LOST MARRIAGES !!? FORECLOSURES AND JOB SEARCH !!? THAT IS THE QUESTION TO BE OR NOT TO BE !!! IS IT LAND OF THE FREE OR STATE OF TERROR AGAINST OWN WHITE POPULATION !!? IT IS TIME TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT COLOR ARE THE STRIPES ON OUR STAR SPANGLED BANNER !!! TIME TO DETERMINE WHOSE INDEPENDENCE/AMERICA, WE CELEBRATE TODAY(who wants to erase us and denies us the right to exist) !!! IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHOM WE ADDRESS WITH "PRESIDENT" (STOP HUMILIATING YOURSELF) !!!

    911 WAS CREATED FOR PEOPLE TO WAKE UP(deliberately by CIA)....HOWEVER, WAKE UP EITHER WHAT IS TRUTH(sanity) OR WAKE UP TO LIES(insanity = with what your self elected governments have brainwashed you when forcefully jobless/persecuted....therefor­­e, I want you to think about "WAKE UP" when watching next time ALEX JONES alike "alternative" news/media = CIA)

    WHEN YOU WAKE UP, I WANT YOU TO WAKE TO YOURSELF AND NOT TO SOMEONE ELSE'S DREAM (ZIONIST/COMMUNIST/LIBERAL DREAM CATCHERS/THIEFS, WHO PLOTTED 911 TO WAKE YOU AFTERWARDS WITH ECONOMIC OPPRESSION IN A WORLD OF LIES !!!)

    HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT TRUTH IS !!? WHATEVER YOU WERE BORN IS WHAT YOU ARE(truth therefore) AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU HAVE CHANGED(distorted yourself) SINCE 9/11 IS WHAT YOU ARE NOT !!!

    FOR PIECE OF MIND(sanity), PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES AND REMEMBER, GENOCIDE(health care) BASED ON FORGIVE AND FORGET IS NOT FOR ME !!! DIGNITY, PRIDE, AND HONOR ARE WORTH TO DIE AND KILL FOR !!!

    October 15, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Reply
  37. Avser Bastian

    WALL STREET PROTESTS...NOT ANTI WALL-STREET AT ALL, BUT INSTEAD RACIALLY MOTIVATED AGAINST WHITES

    THEY WERE MURDERING YOU WITH AND INSIDE OF THEIR CORPORATIONS FOR OVER 66 YEARS !!! THEY HAVE CLOSED DOWN ALMOST EVERY SMALL COMPANY IN UNITES STATES OF AMERICA AND NOW, THEY WANT YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND PROTEST FOR THEM AGAINST WALL STREET(corporations = Wall-street) !!!

    FOR ENTIRE 66 YEARS, ON DAY TO DAY BASES, ALL THEY WERE DOING IS CRIME CONTEMPLATING AGAINST US INSIDE OF THEIR BACK OFFICE CUBICLES(on job torture/bullying/mobbing and forceful unemployment to progress humanity as Obama exclaimed over and over) PER EEOC AND NOW, THEY WANT YOU TO RAISE COMMUNIST FLAG UNDER AMERICAN SKY !!! ONE RACE; RAT RACE(Wall street protesters are Obama's army which spread from London per Zionist Washington DC and communist Moscow) !!!

    WHEN YOU PROTEST(it is much more than just than necessarily), RAISE SIGNS HIGH SO WHOLE WORLD CAN SEE DISPLAYED I CITE, "66 YEARS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITES IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE !!!"

    THIS INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU BY WHITE AMERICAN REFUGEE !!!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/BostjanAvsec OR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGfYOAydjw OR http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xleq3o

    October 15, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Reply
  38. Gepaart Vision

    ANTI WALL STREET PROTESTS = TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP = COMMUNISM

    WHITES AREN’T WELCOME IN AMERICA ANY LONGER !!! OUT OF AMERICA WITH WHITES NOW !!! http://www.youtube.com/user/BostjanAvsec <== OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE RECORDED LIVE IN 2009. These are hard facts about lunatic Obama/Bush's twilight zone administrations(HORROR) or genocide against white population

    Ask your local newspaper/media why do they keep silent about crime/genocide !!? Ask them why do they KNOWINGLY participate in crime/genocide !!! BECAUSE SILENCE = CRIME !!!

    WALL STREET PROTESTS...NOT ANTI WALL-STREET AT ALL, BUT INSTEAD RACIALLY MOTIVATED VIOLENCE AGAINST WHITES !!!

    ANTI WALL-STREET PROTESTS ARE ALSO KNOWN UNDER ZIONIST "TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP" IN AMERICA !!! TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP FROM HANDS OF WHITE AMERICANS TO SO CALLED "MINORITIES"(COMMUNISM) http://multiculturalismisterrorism.blogspot.com/

    THEY WERE MURDERING YOU WITH AND INSIDE OF THEIR CORPORATIONS FOR OVER 66 YEARS !!! THEY HAVE CLOSED DOWN ALMOST EVERY SMALL COMPANY(FARMS) IN UNITES STATES OF AMERICA AND NOW, THEY WANT YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND PROTEST FOR THEM AGAINST WALL STREET(because corporations = Wall-street) !!!

    THEY WERE CRIME CONTEMPLATING AGAINST US PER EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION FOR OVER 66 YEARS AND NOW, THEY WANT YOU TO RAISE COMMUNIST FLAG UNDER AMERICAN SKY !!! ONE RACE; RAT RACE(Wall street protesters are Obama's raise of the planet Apes army which spread from London per Zionist Washington DC and communist Moscow where new Stalin is in place – PUTIN) !!!

    IF YOU PROTEST(YOU SHOULD), MAKE SURE TO RAISE SIGN WHERE DISPLAYED I CITE "66 YEARS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITES IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE" OR GET LOST HOME IF NOT ALREADY HOMELESS(I despise people who starve to death out there and are afrraid to say out loud what is truth...I despise people who only see themselfs and do NOT care even about children of their own...chidren who will be turned one day in white refugees as seen on above video) !!!

    CREATE AWARENESS AND POST THIS VERY SAME VIDEO ON YOUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL.

    WAKE UP YOUR FRIENDS AND SAVE YOURSELF FROM AGONY(did you know that over one hundred million of so called minorities lives already in United States very today and as a result, over 450 million whites worldwide were murdered with economic genocide/oppression since WWII just as seen and proven in above video !!?)...

    THERE IS ESTIMATED THAT ONGOING GENOCIDE TREND WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 50 YEARS IF NOT DESTROYED(is completed only 30% so far) AND IS ONLY MATTER OF TIME WHEN YOU ARE NEXT IN LINE FOR THE SAKE OF MULTICULTURALISM(TERRORISM)...

    911 WAS CREATED FOR PEOPLE TO WAKE UP(deliberately by CIA)....HOWEVER, WAKE UP EITHER WHAT IS TRUTH(sanity) OR WAKE UP TO LIES(insanity = with what your self elected governments have brainwashed you when forcefully jobless/persecuted....therefor­­e, I want you to think about "WAKE UP" when watching next time ALEX JONES = CIA)

    WHEN YOU WAKE UP, I WANT YOU TO WAKE TO YOURSELF AND NOT TO SOMEONE ELSE'S DREAM (ZIONIST/COMMUNIST/LIBERAL DREAM CATCHERS/THIEFS, WHO PLOTTED 911 TO WAKE YOU AFTERWARDS WITH ECONOMIC OPPRESSION IN A WORLD OF LIES !!!)

    HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT TRUTH IS !!? WHATEVER YOU WERE BORN IS WHAT YOU ARE(truth therefore) AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU HAVE CHANGED(distorted yourself) SINCE 9/11 IS WHAT YOU ARE NOT !!!

    IS IT INDEPENDENCE THAT WE CELEBRATE OR DEPENDENCE (what are your credit card bills or alimony saying about it) !!? HOW IS YOUR DIABETES AND LOST MARRIAGES !!? FORECLOSURES AND JOB SEARCH !!? THAT IS THE QUESTION TO BE OR NOT TO BE !!! IS IT LAND OF THE FREE OR STATE OF TERROR AGAINST OWN WHITE POPULATION !!? IT IS TIME TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT COLOR ARE THE STRIPES ON OUR STAR SPANGLED BANNER !!! TIME TO DETERMINE WHOSE INDEPENDENCE/AMERICA, WE CELEBRATE TODAY(who wants to erase us and denies us the right to exist) !!! IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHOM WE ADDRESS WITH "PRESIDENT" (STOP HUMILIATING YOURSELF) !!!

    YES , WE CAN..YES , WE CAN..WE WILL WIN IN WAR ON TERROR (30 whities or what are terrorists will never come back alive due to Afghanistan helicopter crash...thank you lord..aamen).

    Whitie is fighting war on terrorism just to come home and be pronounced as terrorist...turned in Timothy, jobless, homeless ..YESSS, WE CAN....FISH CAN & TENT CITY USA CAN...GABBY OPENED HER EYES CAN(psycho Tucson)

    OS(B)AMA IS MOVING OUT OF AFGHAN FEW DAYS AFTER MY POSTING ONLINE(out of Iraq few months before elections) AND IS WILLING TO IMPROVE ECONOMY(genocide against whites) FEW MONTHS AHEAD OF ELECTIONS(what is the difference between temporary and permanent jobs in USA!!?) !!

    ALL THESE JUST SO YOU CAN CLICK AGAIN ON ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES WHICH CAN BE ALL CONTROLLED(AND ARE CONTROLLED OR COMPUTER OPERATED) FROM A SINGLE CELLULAR PHONE(for entire USA)...JUST SO YOU CAN CHOSE AGAIN BETWEEN WHATEVER WAS ALREADY CHOSEN FOR YOU TO CHOOSE FROM BY ZIONIST/JEWISH LOBBY IN WASHINGTON DC.

    Don't worry O(s)bama, you have just saved lots of Dollars in your DEBT DEALS(DEAD & ILL) as those America best (Navy Seals) would also grew older and then you already know how it goes !!!

    WAKE-UP !!! WAKE UP PEOPLE BEFORE IT GETS ALL TO LATE ON PLANET APE !!! TEARS WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD !!! AS BUSH STATED "THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PAID FOR"(to die ) !! STOP THE GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AND TERROR AGAINST WHITES WORLDWIDE IN THE NAME OF MULTYCULTURALISM OR NWO !!

    EVEN IF IRAQ WOULD BE WAR FOR OIL, VETERANS WOULDN'T NEVER EVER HAVE TO BE HOMELESS PEOPLE THE WAY THEY ARE AND NOR WOULD OUR PEOPLE DIE ALLOVER THE PLACE THEY DO AND TO VERY TODAY(never ending war story)...BECAUSE EVEN IF WAR WAS FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY, MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS AND NOT WHAT THE CASE IS OR AGAINST WHITES(66 YEARS AFTER WWII, THEY HAVE EATEN YOU IN AND OUT LIKE IN GERMANY PRIOR TO WWII...all your sacrifice during WWII was for nothing and the worse is yet to come in America)...

    October 22, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Reply
  39. Dark

    AMAZING how CNN will not put CONTACT INFORMATION for their, TONGUE IN CHEEK, "JOURNALISTS".

    Can't find ANY contact information for Tom Foreman.

    Must be tired of getting all of the NEGATIVE COMMENTS made to him and showing him how LIBERALLY BIASED he is ... of course, he DOES WORK FOR CNN.

    October 25, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Reply
  40. John b

    Here we go again... Tricia is one of those people who leave the church, but just can't leave it alone. Violent temple ceremonies are completely unfounded. I've been about at least 100 times in my life. Could she be wanting to make a buck or two with her sensationalist accusations? i'd say so. She's even more extreme than Rev. Jeffress. If you were doing a study or reportage on Jews, would you go to likes of the Soviet or Nazi regimes to get their opinion? if you did, you would get a similarly slanted take that Ms. Tricia has outlined above. IF you take her for her word, hope you can somehow make sense of it all. One must go to the source to find answers to their questions!! lds.org , mormon.org or just ask a mormon that lives near you!

    November 1, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Reply
  41. Avser Bastian

    NOT LIABILITIES OR DISCRIMINATION, BUT INSTEAD ASSASSINATIONS !!! http://myshortbiography.blogspot.com/ LEARN TRUTH ABOUT EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION, UNITED NATIONS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AS WELL AS NEW WORLD ORDER(MULTICULTURALISM = TERRORISM) GOVERNMENTS !!! NOT THERE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS, BUT TO DENY YOUR RIGHT TO EXISTENCE !!! 66 YEARS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITES WORLDWIDE IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE !!! STOP THE ANIMAL APARTHEID NOW !!!

    NOT LIABILITIES OR DISCRIMINATION, BUT INSTEAD ASSASSINATIONS !!! http://myshortbiography.blogspot.com/ LEARN TRUTH ABOUT EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION, UNITED NATIONS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AS WELL AS NEW WORLD ORDER(MULTICULTURALISM = TERRORISM) GOVERNMENTS !!! NOT THERE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS, BUT TO DENY YOUR RIGHT TO EXISTENCE !!! 66 YEARS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITES WORLDWIDE IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE !!! STOP THE ANIMAL APARTHEID NOW !!!

    December 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Reply
  42. Ramon Espinosa de los Monteros

    A Professed Prophet has to create miracles Mohammad did not and Joseph Smith did not create Miracles
    These men one who said convert by the sword and the other a myth creater should be avoided and it is what it is.

    December 14, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Reply

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