 An image of Caylee Anthony and her grandmother, Cindy, projected on a courtroom monitor and submitted into evidence in the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando on June 24, 2011. Michelle Dawn Crowder wants a 'Caylee's Law'ONLY ON THE BLOG: Answering today's five OFF-SET questions is Michelle Dawn Crowder of Durant, Oklahoma.  Crowder has started an online petition calling on elected officials to create Caylee's Law, making it a felony for a parent or guardian to not notify law enforcement of a child going missing in a timely manner. UPDATE 7-7-11: According to Change.org, Crowder's petition is the most popular campaign in the website's history. In less than 36 hours, more than 250,000 people in all 50 states have joined in. Change.org has attracted more than 3 million members around the world. The website allows ordinary people to effect social change by starting online signature campaigns targeting lawmakers, companies and nations. What was your first reaction when you saw the Casey Anthony verdict? To be honest, I was sickened and angered by the verdict. I have been watching the trial on TV here and there and felt in my heart that Casey Anthony was guilty, and when I found out it took her a full 31 days to report Caylee’s disappearance, and the things she did during those 31 days, I got upset and felt she should be held accountable for that. Even if she is truly not guilty for the murder, not being punished for failing to report Caylee’s disappearance is wrong. What made you think of posting a petition to create Caylee's Law? I saw a page on Facebook called “Caylee’s Law”, talking about how this law needed to be made, but I saw nothing actually being done. I have signed several petitions on change.org for various issues (mostly dealing with LGBT Equality), so I decided I would take a chance and create this petition. How would the law work? First of all, what would you consider "a timely manner" - six hours? A day? The law would make it a federal offense punishable by prison time for failing to report a child’s death within 1 hour of the death being discovered, and 24 hours for a child’s disappearance. If it is found out that the disappearance was more than 24 hours before being reported, the reporting individual would immediately be arrested, and same for the death, with the time frame being 1 hour. You are also asking that it be a felony if a parent, legal guardian, or caretaker did not notify "law enforcement of the death of their child, accidental or otherwise, in a timely manner of said death being discovered." I don't know, but isn't that already ready required by law? I have looked on many legal websites during the past hours, and have seen nothing about it being punishable by law for the failure to report it, aside from Obstruction of Justice. If a similar law does exist in some states, that is great, but I have been unable to find it, and nothing on the federal level of such a law existing. I have seen reports of bills about it in Ohio, but nothing else. By any chance, did you have conversations with local law officers in your area about how they would enforce such a law? Have you spoken yet with any lawmakers in your state? I have not spoken to any law enforcement officers or lawmakers. I do not know any lawmakers or government officials; I just felt something had to be done. I would hope that law enforcement agencies and lawmakers would agree that this needs to be a federal law. (Editor's note: Change.org reports that State legislators in Florida and Oklahoma have already pledged to introduced bills to create Caylee’s Law in their states. Other states are soon expected to follow suit.) How far are you going to take this petition drive? I am ready and willing to take this petition drive as far as I have to in order to see this carried out. I will not stop until a bill is introduced to federal lawmakers to make Caylee’s Law a realization. I also want to say I cannot take all the credit for this. If it weren’t for the passion and determination of everyone who signed this petition, it would go nowhere. I can only hope that it works, and that no other child’s death or disappearance will fail to be reported, as Caylee’s was failed to be reported. No child deserves to have their life and death treated in such a manner. NOTE from CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin:
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How about popping these up all over the country in Caylee's honor? http://www.norcalserviceleague.org/cwr.htm
Whether Michelle Dawn Crowder (who?) thinks Casey Anthony is guilty is – and was – totally irrelevant. Actually I think making inflammatory comments about the judgement of a court of law should probably be considered contempt of court even after a judgement is past.
What she thinks about Anthony's guilt should have no bearing on constructing an argument for a law to hold parents negligent who fail to report a missing child. Actually I'm rather surprised if there isn't already legal means to prosecute such negligence. But let's *not* call it "Casey's Law". Please.
hey phil grundig..are you a complete IDIOT?! it's caylee's law...not that murdering mother casey's law
Thanks Tom! I'll second the comment made to Phil. This is simply a measure that needs to be enforced. When a child, ANY child is missing...Report it.
Really??? We now need to enact another law because maybe 1% of parents would act the way Casey did. Please. Let's focus our attention on those victims out there who don't get justice at all. Another law.....not the way to go. I for one who is a parent of 3 boys laugh at that thought. Move on
Carl C rather you think it ridiculous or not, if another jury were to have erred as much as this one did(without a shadow of a doubt they got reasonable doubt all wrong) we could still have the option of pursuing other means to get justice. Rather it never happens again is beside the point. I hope we never have to use Caylees law. If it had been a law already Casey would have had to do some serious time. Personally I think people like you are a lot like mosquitoes you buzz around and sting people just to agitate
I agree with your opposition to implementing this law. Instead of focusing on passing this one off law, how about asking for better prosecutors, or better judges? That would improve the system throughout. Where are we headed with this?...a law for every situation we face with our children, our parents, other dependents?
I agree. Lawmakers have nothing better to do – like maybe quit acting like children and make some decisions that affect the people of this country.
From: "Proctor, Bill"
To: cherylzinn@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Create Caylee's Law, Not Reporting Child's Death Should Be a Felony
Dear Ms. Zinn,
Thank you for your e-mail regarding the tragic situation surrounding Caylee Anthony's death. As your State Representative, I share in your sympathies and value your concerns and input on this issue.
The House of Representatives and I hold a firm commitment to continually advancing public safety and protecting our most vulnerable citizens from harm. At this time, we are reviewing Florida's current laws that address the penalties for failing to report a missing child and the public policy options available to ensure our children's safety. Members of the legislature are currently working on a proposal for Caylee's Law.
Again, thank you for your e-mail and comments on this issue. Please do not hesitate to contact my office in the future on this or any other matter of interest to you.
Sincerely,
State Representative Bill Proctor
District Office
900 State Road 16, Suite 2
St Augustine, Fl 32084
yes it shoul d be called caylees law!!! there is no reason to let a baby be missing for 31 days!!!
please dont let casey make money from this little angel now in heaven
please dont help casey make money on this little angel in heaven now i agree with the caylee law i cannot believe that a mother can party knowing her child is laying in a swamp and have no remorse i9n court except when they were talkiung about herself and i am having a hard time understanding how lawyers can even go along with her lies right from the beginning they knew she was gone and the lawyers even let the peoplew serch for that child too i just hope when she is always thinking about the times she let people search for her daughter knowing about what happened to her all along
Please. I agree with Phil; the fact that Ms. Crowder feels "in her heart" that Ms. Anthony is guilty, does not supersede the jury's verdict, and CERTAINLY does not suggest we need more knee-jerk laws that will end up just making life more difficult for honest parents everywhere. The problem here is that once again, the profit-based news/entertainment media, led by Nancy Grace in this case, has whipped up an emotional frenzy, mainly targeted at home-based moms who are the main demographic of their advertisers. Ms. Crowder, do you generally concern yourself with missing, abused or murdered children in Durant, OK, in your own neighborhood, or only with nationally televised soap opera cases to determine your "new law" proposals?
Unfortunately this soap opera had a real innocent child murdered. I'm sure if the case had involved your family your thoughts would be a bit different. There is no reason to be afraid of another "new family law" if you keep up with your duty as a REAL parent. Regardless the law's name, I'm all for it! If one is not fit to be a parent, let the damage be only upon them.
Mart;
I'm sorry but I watched nearly the entire trial. And, as an attorney who has been both a prosecutor and a defense attorney, I saw absolutely no evidence to proved even to the civil standard of "more likely than not" that the child was "murdererd". What evidenced was introduced at trial that proved the child to have been murdered. Prosecutors refer to this type of case as a "dry bones" case – meaning that due to the significant decomposition of the remains, there was absolutely no evidence establishing cause of death. If the State can not prove cause of death how can a jury convict someone of murder. The case was overcharged by the State therey making it a "no-brainer" for the jury; thus the very quick verdict. The jury followed the law, did their job, and got it absolutely correct.
I just saw where In the Arena is being cancelled – this is really too bad, as Eliot is the most insightful analyst on the air.
Let's hope he returns in another similar role.
yo i support you 100 % she should be away for life how can anyone smile after loosing your lilgirl
how about some freaking grammar!
Lets STOP this tragady from EVER HAPPING AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!
yes I concern myself with missing children everywhere. My feelings on Casey Anthony's guilt or innocence have no bearing on introducing this law. Whether she killed Caylee or not, she should be convicted of the crime of not reporting Caylee's disappearance, as should ALL parents, guardians, and caretakers who fail to do so. This is not about me, this is not about Casey Anthony, this is about children everywhere.
Bravo to you, Miss Crowder! Great answer to this "Michael" (whomever he is). He obviously has not integrity.
and youre gonna be the shining light that just so happened to be the first to think of it so youre name is forever attached to this piece of garbage proposal and waste of the lawmakers time? thank you michelle dawn crowder for jamming up the judicial and prison systems some more.
What is wrong with you? Some one has to make a stand for that child.
Sadly people like you could care less about that the subject they are arguing they just need some form of attention to feel important. If you so desperately need something to keep you busy may I suggest therapy? The only waste of time I see here is wasted reading your responses that have no validity. No law is a waste of time if it concerns the safety and well being of a child.
I agree with your opposition to implementing this law. Instead of focusing on passing this one off law, how about asking for better prosecutors, or better judges? That would improve the system throughout. Where are we headed with this approach? Will we support a law for every situation we face with our children, our parents, other dependents? Frankly I want less government in my life. A caring parent would call right away, a murderous one will not. There are laws on the books on how to deal with murderers, this one just happen to get away (in the minds of some), she isn't the first, and certainly won't be the last. This whole approach is just another knee jerk reaction, a band-aid feel good solution to a complex problem. How about passing a law that prevents psychopaths from having children? How about requiring a license before you start bearing children showing you have the wherewithal and training to raise one properly?
Well,Christopher I really hope & pray nothing like this ever happens to you and you will need this law. I looks to me that you don't have any children
Michelle, God bless you for taking this step. I have signed the petetion and pray it will go into law.
Why? So that the law would apply to the 1% of the cases involving this fact pattern???? A better law would be a law which states that if you lie to law enforcement then the punishment for that lie would be equal to the punishment permitted on the underlying charge. In other words, if you lie to law enforcement in a case which is utlimately charged as a felony then the charge of lying to law enforcement would carry the same penalty as the case for which you are charged. That, it would seem, would apply to all cases of lying to law enforcement as opposed to this suggested law which would apply to less than 1% of all criminal cases filed. WAKE UP PEOPLE.
Mikes right on this. I hope they add this to Caylees Law.
Ms. Crowder, I believe that you have a wonderful idea here, and would suggest an addition to this. I also believe that it should be a felony for a parent/guardian/caretaker (this would include babysitters) not to seek immediate medical attention for any life threatening injury to a child. I do not believe that death only should necessitate a call to law inforcement or medical personnel.
Thank you
See my Reply to Barnhill above
I agree with Mikes thought. Maybe they can base the law on that. It would probably work more efficient overall.
I agree with Ms Crowder. When you become a parent, that child is YOUR sole responsibility, not the grandparents nor babysitters. I always knew where my small children were (now teenagers are another matter!). Obviously there is no such law on the books, or I would hope Casey would have faced additional charges. Perhaps IF there was such a law today, she would be doing MORE time.
As someone posted "only 1% of parents do this"...well, what percentage of citizens become murderers? and yet we have laws against murder!
CONGRATS MICHELLE YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, ITS SO HARD TO BELIEVE CAYLEES JURY COULD NOT SEE THE CHILD NEGLECT AND ENDANGERMENT THAT CAYLEE WAS PUT THROUGH. I WONDER EACH TIME WHEN THEY SEE ON THE NEWS ANOTHER CHILD HAS DISAPPEARED, AND ALL THEY COULD FIND TO CONVICT ON LYING TO POLICE. PATHETIC GROUP OF PEOPLE AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED. YES IF THIS LAW IS PASSED IF SOMEONE KNOWS AND DONT REVEAL EVERYTHING TO THE POLICE, THEN THEY CAN JUST BE PUT AWAY.. AT LEAST WE KNOW CAYLEE WILL BE IN HER HEAVENLY HOME WITH HER FATHER. GOD BLESS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LOVED THIS LITTLE GIRL SHE SORTA SEEMS LIKE SHE OURS. PLEASE EVERYONE LETS NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO ANOTHER CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY, I WAS THIINKING SINCE CAYLEE DISAPPEARED I CAN THINK OF FIVE OTHER CHILDREN THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE NO TRACE OF TRULY UNTHINKABLE LETS ALL BE ADVOCATES FOR CHILDREN ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY AND NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
While i applaud you for having your heart in the right place, i can't understand why we need to enact anoher law that, quite frankly, normal people already practice. If my son were to be missing for less than 10 minutes i would have helicopters and cia on standby–this woman-Casey Anthony-is mentally incompetant to be a parent and why not enact a law to prevent anyone with these issues from becoming a parent in the fist place? What was she thinking??
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How is going with your own children?
Please, enlighten us to the other acts you have initiated to the benefit of missing and abused children.
This is a great idea. It's just a shame that Caylee had to loose her life and a mother who didn't care for a law like this.
I am favor of Caylee's Law. Parent's should be held accountable for their children that was last seen with them. This should be done in memory of Caylee and her grand parents who also suffering from what their daughter, Casey Anthony did. Erin
We do NOT need MORE GOVERNMENT! Making new laws every single day is making it where we can't even breathe! We need less government! You are painting with a wide brush on this issue and missing a lot. The government never just stops at "enough", they will grab your "law" and infringe other rights. You won't even have a right to your children at this pace!
The stupidity in calling for more government is killing our nation. We live in a Nanny State now because of this. Wake the hell up!
Are you Freaking kidding me ?! We don't have any rights over our children anyway ! Why do you think this poor baby is dead now? The freaking justice system sucks! It defends the guilty & the innocent are the ones who pay. Wake up people! Lets face it , its going to take someone or something much bigger than MAN or our SO CALLED JUDICIAL SYSTEM to fix these problems ! Perhaps if the grandparents had been able to take custody of this beautiful child, she might still be alive today. I MEAN COME ON , IF THIS CHILD WAS ACCIDENTALLY DROWNED, WHY THE HEEL WOULD SOMEONE PUT TAPE ON HER FACE ? How stupid do you have to be to figure that out !
Hmmm...the people that this law is intended for typically wouldnt want to report their child is missing if foul play is involved...ie Casey Anthony....Whats another felony count if you are caught. Stop cramming laws down our throats. This proposed law can be abused by officials who are looking for someone, not necessarily the right one, to blame.
hello, where did that individual's comment say anything about the justice system? are you kidding me?? i will agree that the justice system is flawed, but the OP shares the same opinion i do, more government is the worst possible answer to an event like this. The government is supposed to be by the people for the people, not by the lawmakers, used to stick it to the people. maybe you should pull your head out from under your rock and pay attention to the larger picture at hand.
Google 'Christian Choate'. Here in NW Indiana, this young boy was kept in a cage, until his beatings resulted in his death. YET there were MANY signs of abuse, even calls for help! Writing new laws is not as important as ENFORCING them!
Lets all make sure we do NOT buy in to this SAD story. Do not pay one cent to this story......
I will not ever watch anything with the name of CASEY ANTHONY on it.....
Totally agree with you. This little shameless witch is going to try to get money from this one way or another. I cant even stand to hear her name, let alone give a got dam penny for her or to her. SHE NEEDS TO ROT IN HELL.
RIP Baby Caylee
That's right, let's make your adolescent outrage the basis for our entire legal system. You're not going to hijack my civil liberties in the name of a dead little girl you don't even know and only care about because Nancy Grace told you to. People like you are trying to turning the US into a police state, and I refuse to kowtow to your form of cultural terrorism.
I beleive if everyone called the congressmen in each state. then maybe they will make it into law
Mary , you are so right. take it to congress..we got the amber law.everyone will know her no matter where she goes. no matter what she does to her face and etc. we,ll know her by her voice ,actions,and it goes on. don,t buy anything and don,t watch her movie.what ever which way she plans to make money.but Calee is safe now with Jesus.
Oh, I am sure that will work. But, hey, dreams are ok!
Ms. Crowder, I probably should not have questioned your concern for missing children, I apologize for that. What concerns me is that emotional reactions to hyped up legal cases like this often lead to more and more intrusive laws that mainly cause trouble for people who have no evil intention, Remember, in this case, as far as anyone knows, Caylee Anthony was NEVER MISSING. That was always a lie, and Ms. Anthony was correctly convicted for that. If anything, considering the public expense, and that of all the people who volunteered their time to aid in the search, she should probably receive a much heavier penalty for those lies. Just no more new family laws, please!
Do you find AMBER Alerts intrusive? Would you find it intrusive if the police informed you that your new next door neighbor was a convicted child molester?
The system does not work!! When procicutores can over charge cases without real evidence for the correct charge and not simply send to trail on prima facia evidence.
In recent months there have been news reports in Florida of law enforcement charging individuals with failure to report a dead body. WILL CASEY BE CHARGED??
What I fail to understand is. . . if this wasn't a murder trial, what the hell was it ? This was not even about the victim ! Caylee . It was a media circus ! Money was wasted to send this sorry excuse for a mother to trial for something as petty & pathetic as "FAILURE TO REPORT A MISSING CHILD" { OMG ! } What kind of nation have we become when the subject of WHY & HOW this baby died becomes second choice? Since when does someone hide an accidental death? Most people have the brains to call 911 & say " omg, there's been a terrible accident, send help now ."
what i don't understand that when caylee anthony thought to be missing why did not put at the amber alert ? Now a little girl is dead. So now everyone in the anthony house can be free from a little girl, now they can party and have fun.
I can't believe this isn't a law already. I think there also needs to be a law that nobody invovled in a case can make money from it. It's just pure evil that a jury member wants money for an interview. Blood Money. A baby is dead ... laws are based on morals and it's morally wrong to have a book deal or any kind of payment where you profit from a death or any misjustice.
This is law is BULL. It is reactionary and again and example of people who don't think their ideas thoroughly.when you have law enforcement treating citizens like trash it's no wonder people are afraid to report crimes. My home was burnt in 2004 and for 4 months I was considered a person of interest which delayed payment on my loss. People, especially young people don't always make the best decisions, but to place them in prison, where they are changed permanently is not the answer. Do I think Casey Anthony Killed Caylee ABSOLUTELY do I think it was planned NO do I Think she panicked YES. More incarceration is not the answer Education is
Every time a child dies, someone wants the government to create a new law in their honor, and it drives me NUTS. Self-important middle-class parents who "just want to make sure it never happens again"... And it"s ALWAYS a shallow political stunt. As well-intentioned as these people are, they're undermining our legal system by preying on people's emotions to pass laws that are useless, unenforceable, dishonest, and even unfair. This isn't about one dead little girl; it's about wasting public resources to make a few angry suburban parents feel a little better in the aftermath of a controversial, over-publicized court case. That's not what our legal system exists for, and it's not how legislation works.
Brad:
Do YOU have children? If so, how would YOU feel if one of them went missing?
Look at what happened with the Amber Alert system. All it took was ONE child...ONE...for this system to become law, and is has worked. I hope and pray that your children never go missing...not just the "angry suburban parents".
Brad, I do see your point, But the world we live in today has turned so inhuman when a mother can do away with or abuse her offspring. I do think that it starts with the child protection services. I have seen too many times a child being abused and the parents get clean for 30 days, go to a few parenting classes and they get their kids back. There is not enough laws to protect the children.. We as adults, it is our responsibility to protect them. NOT after a child is murdered. But, if this law was to pass, there would have been a chance to of found this child a lot sooner and there may had been some DNA that had not been washed away from being in the woods for 6 months. There may had also been a actual body to lay to rest in a proper manner that this child deserved. I know child abuse is real. I have 2 sisters I have adopted and I have witnessed the mind of a sick mother first hand. I do not mean to disrespect you, But we all do have our own opinions, and some of them are based on actual facts.
Sheri, the world is no less inhumane than it was 100 years ago. In fact, history will argue that today's world is safer for children than it was when bandits roamed the lawless west of the United States and small pox killed thousands of children. Let's all stop with the melodrama, the "you're not a parent, you wouldn't understand!" fallacy, and look at the issue with logic. That's what our legal system was based on, that's how we are to practice policy, that's how you succeed in changing behavior.
This law is absolutely knee-jerk. It doesn't take into account the various ways parents react to their children missing. It doesn't address the impact of a parent being sent to prison for a felony has on the child – are we simply doubling up the abuse on the child by depriving him or her access to a parent? It's an emotional reaction and that has no place in law making.
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Brad: You remind me of the twelve ignorant jurors who found Casey not guilty it is just not a few people upset it is only about ninety per cent of the people not just a few. As for Nancy Grace we need a lot more people like her fighting for justice.
grandparents both at work , cells phone pings near the burial site on the day she claims caylee went missing, casey only one driving her car, dogs, x cop george nurse cindy and others smelled decomposing flesh, casey had access to house for bags blanet duct tape , researches done on computer for chloraform, amd the biggest is NOT REPORTING HER CHILD FOR 31 ONE DAYS at up to more than lying to cops?? 2 plus 2 = 4 to me! scott peterson got death for less than this eveidence The justice system is not perfect and in this case I think it got it wrong . 2 out of 3 people will say the same thing and its not just because this is drawing hurt from the heart
Just to inject a little levity–notice you NEVER see a pretty Oklahoman on the news? I can say that..I live there..
Maybe the pretty Oklahomans are too busy fixing their hair and putting on makeup to actually accomplish anything. I think accomplishment is more important.
First, wth? Seriously this is what you come up with? And who the hell are you to judge someone by their looks? You obviously have some maturing to do. Lets keep this discussion where it should be and focus on "Caylee's Law" not your lame attempts at attention.
THANK YOU- THANK YOU- THANK YOU !!!
This is democracy in action. When confronted with a situation that sickens us and angers us we should use that anger and focus it in a positive way like this legislative proposal. Caylee is in a better place and we should focus our efforts to ensuring no other child's death by murder goes unpunished.
She had been watching the trial 'here and there' and was sure Casey was guilty? What kind of idiot would make such a statement. Fool.
what grown mature person would call another grown person an idiot for trying to protect children. Grow up and get a life.
My feeling exactly....Thank you Crystal!
Some of these comments are really upsetting to read. I think (feelings aside) this law should have already been put in place and since it has not yet and something this terrible had to happen to Caylee then by all means her name should always be remembered and in a law protecting children who may be in her situation. I am a Criminal Justice major currently and yes our justice systems are flawed they would rather let guilty people go than to put someone innocent in jail but what good does letting the guilty go, to harm another person? And for those of you who have the nerve to put Michelle down and call her an idiot have some serious problems and just maybe the idiot is not so much Michelle but the person who thinks they have the right to call some they know nothing about an idiot. I have much respect for Michele for stepping up to the plate to try and protect innocent children when no one else did. Now my personal feeling Casey Anthony is guilty not reporting her child missing for 31 days is by far an accident, tape around Caylee's mouth is not accidental drowning, parting while she was "missing" she does nt care, No emotion she is no mother. I for one am highly upset that she is getting out in a week and she can not wait to have another child makes me sick. Oh and now she can confess write a book and a movie and profit off of her daughters death because she can not be tried again, she is a sick and guilty murderer and anyone who can sit here and think the is rediculous needs to open their eyes.
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I don't understand why so many of you are offended or feel violated by the idea of such a law (to punish a parent/caregiver/guardian if they do not report their child missing or dead). First of all, people need to advocate for those who can not advocate for themselves (children) this type of law would do that. Second, are you suggesting that a parent/caregiver/guardian should have the choice to not report their child missing or dead, as if a child's life doesn't matter? Finally, why worry about a law that does not apply to you; if you are a responsible person then you should not find yourself in a situation where you would be punished by this law. Am I missing something here, are that paranoid?
*are you that paranoid?
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I second this 100%.
Double Jeopardy does not apply if they file federal charges against her for violating the civil rights of her child. She can receive a life sentence if convicted. Anyone who waits a month to report their child missing has violated their civil rights!! Everyone needs to contact the feds, state atty and atty general in FL and get them to prosecute the crap out of her that way!!!!.
Contact Lawson Lamar, State Atty Florida. Tricia Anderson NINTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
Lawson Lamar, State Attorney
415 North Orange Avenue
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I read this today, It may help with a retrial if they can find some more evidence. I am a true believer of God and miracles. I think God let lightening strike the tree next to Caylee's memorial site because there may had been something missed in that area, or he was letting us know to keep fighting for her. I have a 2 and a 5 year old, Both of them sisters, I have adopted them. The 5 year old we have had since birth with the exception of her mom coming to get her for 3 weeks, when she returned she was almost dead, her mom had had 3 more children since my oldest daughter, I end up with my daughters sister right after she turned 2 years old, she was an emotional mess when we got her, her health was in really bad shape, she was infested with lice, scabies, mrsa when we got her, she had never even had a shot all of her top teeth had to be taken out because of broken teeth and rotten teeth and a mouth full of infection. I could go on and on...my point is, after 4 kids for this mother, If a mother does not bond with a child and thinks more of themselves than they do their kids, they are not mothers. There had to be some VERY STIFF LAWS to protect these children. I do believe in my heart like many others do that Casey killed her baby, if it were not for the new "DNA" proof that everyone needs now for proof, there would have been a conviction yesterday. There was just too much evidence that pointed to her, But in the old days, that is all there was evidence. There were no DNA, I think we should all demand a retrial with all new jurors, and also a new prosecuting attorney. Face it....Caylee DID NOT drown, if she had, what would be the purpose of duct taping her nose and mouth shut. Everything as evidence come from the home of the Anthony's. I think her mom did it because her parents cracked down on her about taking responsibility and she rebelled on Caylee and her mom is covering it up in fear of losing her daughter. It is really horrible to have to make laws to protect children, But children can not protect themselves. I have witnesses child neglect, I live with two kids that have been neglected, If I had not faught her for them, these two also would eventually ended up just like Caylee. Child abuse is real!
This is great now if they can just find solid evidence.
I can appreciate the concern for all children but this is legislation that is simply unnecessary. If a parent does not care for their child, no law is going to change that. Human action cannot be legislated.
Furthermore, be careful of what you wish for. If such a law is passed it essentially makes children the PROPERTY of the government, in this case the federal government. From which all kinds of legislation and regulation will be invoked to ensure(enslave) parents make the 'correct' decisions about their children which will only benefit the government, not the children(think Hitler Youth). Socialists just love these kinds of laws. And laws like this will only continue to spawn more laws that will displace the proper role of parents and replace it with government insanity. Do you really want that? I certainly don't.
Caylee's death was a tragedy! No doubt. But with all the laws we currently have, it still didn't help. I repeat, human action cannot be legislated! So do not be so rash as to use government to take away my role as a parent. I have enough to worry about without wondering which of my neighbors is going to turn me in for their idea of bad parenting.
Also, our federal government can't touch anything without wasting billions, if not trillions. We're in debt to the tune of $14.3 TRILLION!!!!!!!!!! What makes you think the taxpayers can fund the parenting of the country's children?
My prayers are with Caylee and I trust that our Good Lord has graciously received her soul. I also pray that our Good Lord will guide all parents to make the right decisions for their children. The Good Lord is where our faith should lie. Not the false promises of government.
This law is to protect the child from a parent that does not care yes it is true it may not prevent a child from being harmed BUT that parent wouls get more than a slap on the wrist and walk free. You people need to start thinking better it is like you hear legislation and its all bad or it wont do anything. This law would be to get justice for a child is in such a situation that this is needed. I am so that some of you think she will be punished with her own guilt but she doesnt have any guilt she is happy and going to make money she is free now she does not care, also the ones who think god will punish her with all due respect god forgives any sin big or small, and then those who say someone else will get her well she is being brought somewhere safe as it said on television so her getting set free is the worst thing ever and she will not pay for her actions against poor little Caylee who never had a chance to grow up and expirence what any other child will. stop thinking about yourselves already and think of the children who might need this law. Some of the comments make me sick and to think every human could feel this child deserved more looks like some dont it is very sad to see.
My prayers to Caylee.
I think this law is a good idea and a reminder that Casey did not report a missing child for 31 days (pathetic).
Casey Anthony is not welcome in 50 states.
This attempt at a legislative response to an all to human tragedy speaks to the wisdom of the founding fathers. Legislative action is designed to be slow and unwieldy for a purpose, reaction breeds bad law. It needs to be thought through, reactive action like this law breeds ineffective laws which then leads to public disrespect for the law. Remember the effects of prohibition, common people became criminals, criminals became celebrity and crime lost its shame, the effect of bad law.
One of the reasons for this law is we have lost faith in our judicial system. We second guess the jury and hope to create new ways to allow prosecutors to put people we think guilty put in prison. In many ways this reminds one of lynch mobs, people unhappy with the way the system works for some one else forcing their feelings into horrible consequences. Twelve men and women sat through the entire trial listened to, viewed and handled the evidence in ways no reporter had an opportunity to. The verdict they rendered was the best they could do. If any law needs to be made out a dissatisfaction with the jury it would be one to make it more difficult to avoid jury duty, with a person's life at stake the decision made for all of us should not be made by twelve people who's most common feature is they couldn't find a good excuse not to serve.
A last thought if Casey Anthony is attacked and killed after her release, by some person driven to the heights of social outrage by Ms. Grace and company, will they be charged with inciting the crime?
At this point I think Grace could be sued for libel based on her continued defamation of Casey Anthony; She cites the 1st amendment but she has crossed the line for any defense. What she is saying now is blatant, known untruths.
First, I haven't followed this much at all and am only riheprepally aware of the details. But based just on what you've written here, it seems like the system that if the case was as poor as you make it out to be, then the system failed when this went to trial at all. I suppose the system as a whole worked that out, but prosecuting with such scant evidence is, in and of itself, a failure.Of course, it's entirely possible that the prosecution felt that a jury may render a guilty verdict despite the lack of evidence. Do you discount that possibility? Had that happened, would that be evidence of the system not working?My, admittedly lay, understanding is that it is up to the judge to determine matters of law and up to the jury to determine matters of truth. If the prosecution failed to even present a prima facie case which is how I read what you've written why didn't (doesn't in general?) the judge simply dismiss the case out of hand?Reply by on July 6th, 2011 at Wednesday, July 6, 2011 @ 8:43 am@Ren, there was a prima facie case. If there hadn't been, it would have been dismissed. But that doesn't mean that it meets the burden of reasonable doubt. If the jury were to render a guilty verdict despite the lack of evidence, the judge would be likely to render a JNOV, or a judgment notwithstanding the verdict, that would negate that verdict.Reply by on July 6th, 2011 at Wednesday, July 6, 2011 @ 1:59 pm@Avitable, I can't remember a judge doing a JNOV on any prominent cases in the recent past. Does that happen often in Florida? It doesn't in my neck of the woods. FTR, I work in civil law, not criminal, so I'm surprised to hear the words prima facie at all. No need to answer this if it's boring law stuff that would only interest me.Reply by on July 6th, 2011 at Wednesday, July 6, 2011 @ 2:02 pm@crisi-tunity, JNOVs are extremely rare, but they do happen. Judges are very hesitant to do that because it goes against the entire jury system. Prima facie is just as applicable in criminal as it is in civil law, too.
i think this is a grat idea in the memory of Caylee and hope and pray the law will help other children.Cassey has to live with herself,in her own prison. one day she will meet on judgement day with God.i pray and hope no counrty lets her adopt. she,ll slip up again,she young. O.J slipped up in fla.she,s going to live a lonely life when her and her mind is alone at night.
My compliments to Michelle Crowder for recommending this as a Law. I thought it was a low already, but apparently I was VERY wrong. It's sad that it's not a law. Kuddos to you Michelle!!!
I feel it is very important to take the necessary measures to ensure this does not happen again! To all the comments saying there does not need to be a law, Again I feel there need to a guideline to follow. In day to day life either your job, school, church, etc, if one person does something wrong they are punished but occasionally people slip through the cracks and then someone else notices this and they try to do the same thing. So a new policy is made to ensure this doesn't happen again. This is not saying that every person will do this but makes sure the one or two percent don't. Any parent who loves their child would not put off reporting their child missing for 31 days, me myself wouldn't wait an hour and this case proved that if you delay the process of investigation the evidence is washed away and there is no way to prove how this sweet child died, either by drowning, suffocation or drugged, evidence was not there. If she was reported missing sooner the chances of knowing would have been greater. my opinion great idea.
It is a sad day in America when a little girl is killed and so many people thought the system worked. You have a mother who somehow killed her little angel whether an accident or deliberate, that smiles as if it never happened and walks out of jail with a slap on the hand because of twelve ignorant people who were in a hurry to vacation. Our system has to change. The people can help by not watching any shows she appears on or don't by any books she sells. She is the one who has to go to bed at night and listen when little Caylee whispers in her ear mommy why did you kill me, why didn't you give me to grandma and papa who really loved me? I am an angel in heaven now and I will be waiting for grandma and papa but mommy I don't think GOD is going to let you in because you have to pay for what you did.
I feel the law that needs to be changed is the law, once you are found not guilty you can never be retried if new is found .This law is unfair.If you are found guilty and new evidence is found you can appeal and receive a new trial. Our system is old and outdated. Caylee needs justice for what was done to her, not have a mother go free and be able to make money off her death.
please , dont help casey make any money on this sweet little girls depth
no money for casey,,will just party it away.. I dont see why ..if ppl want to donate just 2.00 dollars to get a stature of caylee in fl..where she lived and that way ppl will never ever forget caylee..it would be for all the ppl to see it and remember to report if ANY child was gone for no more then 24 hrs..or less.. caylee would be around for ppl to see......that do you think?
If she makes money off of this, why is it any different than Nancy Grace (who before this trial had lost 50% of her viewers) who is milking Caylee's death for every ratings point she can get. In fact, Grace's HLN network viewing rose by 1700 percent. Secondly, why can't she (Anthony) make money off of her story? She was found not guilty. What about Sandra Cantu, Cary Stayner & others who never received any media coverage as this. No people Nancy Grace and HLN (along with bozo's like Politan) will ride the gravy train until she can grab another case to sensationalize and people like you who become puppeteers to the puppet master, Grace. Grace is just a caustic cable tv carrion, counting her money and smacking her lips.
I'm amaze how stupid people are supporting Caylees Law. Even if this becomes law so what?
If a mom killed her mistake ( child ) do one think for one second shes going to think OH THERES CAYLEES LAW. I MUST call the police right away. I don't think so.
Just shows how stupid women are supporting this law. The law means nothing.
This Michael Whitney,is a winner all right.
Stupid! Lets not act like a child. This is our point exactly if you can read or pay attention at ALL. If a parent does not report an accidental death or missing child within such amount of time the parent will be charged with a felony. Sometime I think some people live under a rock. How dare you think its ok to call anyone stupid for trying to protect children? Time to grow up, name calling stops in middle school sweetheart.
I do not think anyone expects a person to kill a child and then call and say" Hey I want to report this child as deceased". This law is intended a a way to hold people like Casey Anthony accountable! Stop and think for a minute... if it had been true that Caylee was kidnapped... there is a limited window to find this child... by waiting even 24 hours your chances of finding that child diminishes! In my opinion, Casey should have been charge with many more offenses concerning Caylees disappearence, Child abuse & child endangerment, she admitted she had drug this child! there should have been a laundry list of charges! But maybe if this opposed law had already been in effect.... they could have at least made those additional charges available to the jury.. and maybe Casey Anthony would be spending Cayless Birthday behind bars!..
My concern is this: (Before backing anything, I would like to make sure I believe in what this person stand for). No disrespect at all, but its stated that Ms. Crowder lost custody of her own 2 children due to lack of finances for attorney fees. But it states that the 2 children were from different partners (1 husband and 1 relationship). What bothers me is even without "as much money" as the opposing clients, why did she not recieve any visitations? She stated on another site that it sickens her to her stomach to know that if one of her children were lost that she would have no way of knowing...How does a parent loose complete contact with a child in a court just because they didnt have money to pay an attorney. Even diligent clients have rights and win at least visitation with their children if the only factor is money. Children (and social services will tell you this) as long as a child has a place to sleep (even if its a mattress on the floor) food to eat and electricity and water, they have the necessities of life needed. Water & electricity can be by means of extension cards to a neighbor or a water hose to a barn, as long as they have it. So what was the reason she does not have contact with her own children?
From: "Proctor, Bill"
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Create Caylee's Law, Not Reporting Child's Death Should Be a Felony
Dear Ms. Zinn,
Thank you for your e-mail regarding the tragic situation surrounding Caylee Anthony's death. As your State Representative, I share in your sympathies and value your concerns and input on this issue.
The House of Representatives and I hold a firm commitment to continually advancing public safety and protecting our most vulnerable citizens from harm. At this time, we are reviewing Florida's current laws that address the penalties for failing to report a missing child and the public policy options available to ensure our children's safety. Members of the legislature are currently working on a proposal for Caylee's Law.
Again, thank you for your e-mail and comments on this issue. Please do not hesitate to contact my office in the future on this or any other matter of interest to you.
Sincerely,
State Representative Bill Proctor
District Office
900 State Road 16, Suite 2
St Augustine, Fl 32084
Children, especialy under school age, need to be registered at the township building. Every child when moving into an area should haave to be registered or else you will be fined. To many fall under the radar. If a child is moved to live with a realative dthe relative must register the child. A neighbors child can dissapear, and just tell the neighbors he/she is living in NY with a relative, meanwhile a child is dead, and no one knows. When a child is moved the guardian must go to the township building and give the updated info, as to where the child is going, then in turn the township is to follow up with the newer township the child is going to. Any guardian/parent must present a birth certificate, and a photo id will be taken and put on file..
Interesting concept Dianne...and not a bad idea at all....Think that could just work!
Some thoughtful considerations before passing a reactionary law...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/caylees-law-casey-anthony-_n_893953.html
What happened? No more signatures. How quickly we forget.
THIS IS SOME STUPID LAW!
ANY MOM WOULD ***NOT*** WAIT 31 DAYS TO REPORT A MISSING CHILD, NOT EVEN 31 HOURS ****UNLES*** SHE KNOWS WHERE SHE/HE IS.
Stupid law... Again another person under a rock. We know not all mothers would wait to report their child missing but there are some who would, ones who dont care. The law is to protect a child. Caylee was missing for 31 days and her mother got nothing for not reporting her missing. The law would find the parent guilty of a felony "IF" she or he does not report a missing child or one who was killed. Why is this law so stupid to you. A mother who would never do this to their child would have nothing to worry about so is it stupid to put pressure on parents who do not care. People these days apparently do not care about children why because Caylee was not your daughter not relation to you. Time to start thinking about people you may not even know.
In addition to the terms of Caylee's Law, there should also be a law to require any car towing operator to report to the police if they 'smell' decomposition in a vehicle they tow, or when they suspect a crime (visible blood, etc.) 'before' the registered owners of the vehicle are notified to pick the vehicle up.
I agree Libby
Boycott Baez. Don't watch any of his media propaganda. He is going to milk the death of Caylee for the rest of his pathetic life.
We need to take away all of casys abiliyies to make money away. Share this with every one you know. twitter, email,facebook,telephone, etc. we need to goin together and stand our ground for Caylee.